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Councilman Terhaar plans to propose food truck ordinance tonight

November 14, 2013

Councilman Andy Terhaar has a food truck ordinance to pass out to the other council members tonight for their discussion on food trucks. He based it off of the Tallahassee ordinance.

In his draft:

Food trucks may not be located within 500 feet of a “brick and mortar” restaurant or other establishment that sells ready-made food for “on premise” consumption, either during or after regular business hours without “brick and mortar” restaurants’ prior written approval.

When not in operation, all mobile food vendors must leave the site and return to their commissary and/or storage facility. They shall not be left unattended.

This should deal with the concerns of the downtown restaurant owners.

Here is his proposal: Food_Truck_Ordinance_11.15.13.

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  • Not Abe's Kin November 17, 2013 at 11:40 am

    It’s not a level playing field if Palafox and/or the core of downtown is removed from the playing field for mobile restaurants. The bars on Palafox are not the only ones paying taxes in Pensacola. As I recall, the four permanent trailers on Palafox were part of a deal that mandated a brick and mortar restaurant as an adjacent commissary. Now that that commissary is gone (Jerry’s Cajun Cafe), perhaps the trailers need to pull up stakes until another brick and mortar restaurant is located there. As it is now, these silver trailers are no more legal than any other mobile truck on Palafox. Why should they be favored and everyone else excluded? Be fair, council members.

  • Ames November 15, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Molino Jim- can you substantiate your claims that Food truck vendors don’t pay to rent a space, and don’t clean up the space they occupy and don’t pay for utilities? No, you can’t because its simply not true. Guess what, they pay taxes and are insured also.

  • granite November 15, 2013 at 9:42 am

    does this area include Seville square. if so what about all the events with food trucks.

  • Ames November 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    Exactly, EPenn. No, they don’t/won’t compete on a routine basis, but come time for a festival downtown whada’ya see? Local restraunts with food trucks downtown. Escambia and Santa Rosa both are plagued with players that are accustomed be being protected from competitors, and they wonder why so many of the locals go elsewhere to dine and shop. Here’s a hint, we don’t like your attitude! Sad, sad… A brick and morter eaterie that’s intimidated by a vendor with stand-to-eat patrons. I’d walk 500 ft to buy from someone other than the whiners if I were going to dine locally.

  • molino jim November 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    @EPnn– The downtown food location have many more cost than the “food trucks”. Let the “food trucks” supply rest rooms (with hot water), pay property taxes, all utilities (not using public lighting), cleaning up the streets and so on. It’s easy to pull up in a truck, sell food items and then drive off leaving the mess for someone else to clean up. The “food trucks” started hitting the streets in many location around the country and were accepted as a good idea— now those early locations are starting to question the wisdom and trying to put more controls in place and are fighting a up hill battle. Try this for an idea—you need to use a bathroom– how many “food trucks” will have one. So you have to use one of the downtown restaurants. Is that fair to that business owner?

  • EPenn November 14, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    So, what the ordinance says is that downtown businesses are unprepared to compete in the market place… should they next propose ordinances that prohibit other like businesses build near to existing businesses? Or maybe the downtown businesses should try to compete for a change…

    btw, isn’t this the same argument that the downtown businesses are making against the Palafox Market? Heck, why don’t those downtown businesses just take their products/dishes to the streets and compete…literally! It would make for an amazing downtown.

  • steve November 14, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Fine job??? He copied from another municipality and is taking credit for this. He probably doesn’t have time to do his own because he is busy pushing the Family Dollar store through for summit blvd and spanish tr. This way his family’s business will benefit more than they already do around here.

  • George Hawthorne November 14, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    This a really interesting piece of legislation … fine job Councilman Terhaar!

    I think that this proposed ordinance is going a long way towards “defining the market.”

    However, the ordinance also provides a “structured approach to regulating the market in an “orderly fashion.”

  • jeeperman November 14, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    I think copying some other municipalities ordinance (for anything) is against the law.
    Every ordinance must be crafted from scratch by the local attorneys working for said city or county.
    So that months or years later someone will ask
    “whatever happen to that effort to regulate……..”