WTF: City of Pensacola has higher murder rate than NYC

December 31, 2012

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Last Friday, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg praised his Police Department for newly released 2012 homicide statistics, which showed 414 murders in the city—the city’s lowest homicide rate in 40 years and a 19 percent decrease over 2011’s rate of 515. That puts the city’s homicide rate (per 100,000) at 5.02.

The City of Pensacola is headed in the opposite direction. According to my count, Pensacola has had seven homicides in 2012, which pegs its homicide rate at 13.41. The number of murders inside the city limits has nearly doubled since last year, and is the highest in the past 10 years.

That’s right – Pensacola has a higher homicide rate than NYC.

Murders by Year
City of Pensacola

2011 4
2012 4
2010 1
2009 1
2008 3
2007 2
2006 2
2005 5
2004 0
2003 5
2002 2

source: FDLE reports

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  • George Hawthorne January 1, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Whip It,

    You can’t fix stupid goes both ways. We, as society, are just as stupid when we don’t develop an environment to create economic development opportunities for a segment of society that has been disenfranchised. In reality, we pay more for NOT taking such initiatives.

  • Whip it good December 31, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    You can’t fix stupid although George would have you think so

  • George Hawthorne December 31, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Rick – The seven murders are significant, especially when you include the attempted murders, assaults, baterry and armed robberies.

  • Whip it good December 31, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Social Darwinism Rick – let it go.

  • Whip it good December 31, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    This is a non-headline. You are sensationalizing Rick. NYC was a gutter 30 years ago – it is now a pristine tourist destination. A more appropriate comparison to Pensacola would be Bed Sty, Queens or Harlem of you feel compelled to compare our little burg to a comparable NY burg. Not quite sure of the relevance of that unless you are just trying to stir the pot – surprise!

    • Rick Outzen December 31, 2012 at 3:59 pm

      Whip it,
      Seven murders in a town of 51,000 is significant. The most in over 10 years.

  • RT December 31, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    BTW, “WTF” in the lead seems a bit too colloquial for the context.

  • RT December 31, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    The gerrymandering contours of Pensacola’s city limits are a problem, and consolidation of some county and city functions would be a good idea. Status quo, though, is tough to change. BTW, different uniforms and badges will not to much to alter the crime problem in certain urban neighborhoods. The problem is more complex.

  • George Hawthorne December 31, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Leroy Carter – you state, “There are to many thugs that are to lazy to get a job and work, so they just deal in drugs.”

    That “thinking” is part of the problem with people understanding the underlying issues of the drug trade and conforming dealers to productive citizens.

    Drug dealers are some of the hardest working prople out there, however, the illicit work doesn’t provide for society. Don’t get it “twisted” to think that they aren’t making money. They work very hard for this money and employ some very basic “business principals” of product manufacturing, marketing, sales, accounting, inventory control, loss prevention and management.

    The problem is that the “industry” is illegal and causes societal breakdown and major costs to society in terms of crime, violence, public health and public safety. The perpertrators are “intelligent” people that have taken the “wrong road” to earn a living.

    Until we understand that there is a “cause and effect” to the lack of legitimate opportunities for some of these people to gain legitimate sources of income we will continue to see a rise in these activities proportionate to the lack of opportunity.

  • Leroy Carter December 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    I for one would not want to see the PPD merged with the ECSO. City officers are much more professional and respond very quickly to calls, the same cannot be said for the county. The city just happens to have more housing paid for by the tax payers.

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